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	<title>Comments on: OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE &amp; ELIGIBILITY FOR POTUS – WHAT LAWMAKERS NEED TO KNOW BEFORE RETURNING HOME IN AUGUST  (Part Two)</title>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
		<link>http://www.hillarynme.com/2009/07/30/obama%e2%80%99s-birth-certificate-eligibility-for-potus-%e2%80%93-what-lawmakers-need-to-know-before-returning-home-in-august-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-3465</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 13:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And this is why such prominent conservative Senators who are also lawyers as Orren Hatch and Lindsay Graham say that a Natural Born Citizen is simply one who was born in the USA:

Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), said:

“Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.” (December 11, 2008 letter to constituent)

Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), said:

“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)
&quot;

And according to the constitution...they are wrong.  Law makers are not automatically right just because they are lawyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And this is why such prominent conservative Senators who are also lawyers as Orren Hatch and Lindsay Graham say that a Natural Born Citizen is simply one who was born in the USA:</p>
<p>Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), said:</p>
<p>“Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.” (December 11, 2008 letter to constituent)</p>
<p>Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), said:</p>
<p>“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>And according to the constitution&#8230;they are wrong.  Law makers are not automatically right just because they are lawyers.</p>
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		<title>By: DANIEL CABRERA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DANIEL CABRERA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Sep 2009 22:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alright , let&#039;s have this clear; first Hawaii &#039;produces&#039; one,...and now,...Kenya &#039;produces&#039; another one. Ok..!!..??
 
If I was a comedian I would say that the guy born simultaneously in two places on planet....slim chance , isn&#039;t it? 
 
PROOF OF FABRICATION ____ THE OBAMA GANG CHICAGO-TYPE CORRUPTED,ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL,ANTI-AMERICAN, TERRORIST FRIENDLY-ORIENTED ADMISTRATION IS VIRTUALLY ALL-MIGHTY….NOW THAT THEY ARE ‘IN POWER’....perhaps for them everything is possible ....&#039;to produce&#039;!.____ 
 
Just remember somethings ‘forgoten’ by many; Biden falsified documents at university studies, Gaithner is a tax cheater, Barney Frank, Reid, Cox, Soros, Pelosi,..and others weeds are masters in the economy destructive plot,…Obama himself, A PRODUCT FROM THE CHICAGO CORRUPTED POLITICAL ATMOSPHERE ...and there are others things too…..anyone can go into details and further research.____
 
So to sumize quickly,…all is CORRUPTION and DISHONESTY since ‘moment one’….no sensible mind would take anything as good or legitimate from this administration that is systematically destroying our country.
No-no-no, boys and girls , I will not swallow nothing from this people, to me and many many others, their credibility is = ZERO !___
 
ABOUT MR OBAMA,…’president’?,…or PROPAGANDIST-IN-CHIEF,…or….PREACHER-IN-CHIEF;___
Anyay, Obama, ‘THE FRONT-MAN’ ….here about him is very short – anyone interseted can go into details:___
 
IN A SHORT NOTE:___ And JUST FOR THE RECORDS, SHOULD OBAMA – ( THE FRONT-MAN ) – IS TO BE FOUND NOT LIGITMATE AMERICAN ( AS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IS PROVEN TO BE AS SUCH – NEVER CLEAR ON THAT /SUPRESSED BY THE DEMOCRATS MACHINERY) then, insofar, he is not to be president by constitutional rights – AND SO NOTHING THAT CAME FROM AND THROUGH HIM IS TO BE CONSIDER LEGAL.___
 
A SMALL REMARK;___Since everything is corrupted and twisted from ‘moment one’ – starting with the CHICAGO CORRUPTED POLITICAL ATMOSPHERE FROM WHERE OBAMA COMES FROM,…and ending or culminating with the past FRAUDULENT ELECTION tainted with ACORN and other agencies of questionable integrity;….nobody,…I mean, NOBODY AT ALL, should be surprised if the so called ‘documentation’ for Obama’s birth certificate or ‘proof’ for it , is ALSO MORE FRAUD AND/OR ILLEGAL PRACTICES.___
 
Remember DISHONESTY AND DECEPTION IS THE TRADEMARK OF THIS ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL, ANTI-AMERICAN CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.___

And how is your day so far ? 

Daniel Cabrera,
Merrillville,Indiana____
 
PS – The tv tabloids (NBC, CNN, MSNBC) , and tabloid publications such as , THE NEW YORK TIMES, THE HUFFINGTON POST, LA TIMES , etc,… along with what is left of the quasi-hypoitized brainless “utra-obamanized ” cool aid drinkers people, will not take this one lightly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alright , let&#8217;s have this clear; first Hawaii &#8216;produces&#8217; one,&#8230;and now,&#8230;Kenya &#8216;produces&#8217; another one. Ok..!!..??</p>
<p>If I was a comedian I would say that the guy born simultaneously in two places on planet&#8230;.slim chance , isn&#8217;t it? </p>
<p>PROOF OF FABRICATION ____ THE OBAMA GANG CHICAGO-TYPE CORRUPTED,ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL,ANTI-AMERICAN, TERRORIST FRIENDLY-ORIENTED ADMISTRATION IS VIRTUALLY ALL-MIGHTY….NOW THAT THEY ARE ‘IN POWER’&#8230;.perhaps for them everything is possible &#8230;.&#8217;to produce&#8217;!.____ </p>
<p>Just remember somethings ‘forgoten’ by many; Biden falsified documents at university studies, Gaithner is a tax cheater, Barney Frank, Reid, Cox, Soros, Pelosi,..and others weeds are masters in the economy destructive plot,…Obama himself, A PRODUCT FROM THE CHICAGO CORRUPTED POLITICAL ATMOSPHERE &#8230;and there are others things too…..anyone can go into details and further research.____</p>
<p>So to sumize quickly,…all is CORRUPTION and DISHONESTY since ‘moment one’….no sensible mind would take anything as good or legitimate from this administration that is systematically destroying our country.<br />
No-no-no, boys and girls , I will not swallow nothing from this people, to me and many many others, their credibility is = ZERO !___</p>
<p>ABOUT MR OBAMA,…’president’?,…or PROPAGANDIST-IN-CHIEF,…or….PREACHER-IN-CHIEF;___<br />
Anyay, Obama, ‘THE FRONT-MAN’ ….here about him is very short – anyone interseted can go into details:___</p>
<p>IN A SHORT NOTE:___ And JUST FOR THE RECORDS, SHOULD OBAMA – ( THE FRONT-MAN ) – IS TO BE FOUND NOT LIGITMATE AMERICAN ( AS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IS PROVEN TO BE AS SUCH – NEVER CLEAR ON THAT /SUPRESSED BY THE DEMOCRATS MACHINERY) then, insofar, he is not to be president by constitutional rights – AND SO NOTHING THAT CAME FROM AND THROUGH HIM IS TO BE CONSIDER LEGAL.___</p>
<p>A SMALL REMARK;___Since everything is corrupted and twisted from ‘moment one’ – starting with the CHICAGO CORRUPTED POLITICAL ATMOSPHERE FROM WHERE OBAMA COMES FROM,…and ending or culminating with the past FRAUDULENT ELECTION tainted with ACORN and other agencies of questionable integrity;….nobody,…I mean, NOBODY AT ALL, should be surprised if the so called ‘documentation’ for Obama’s birth certificate or ‘proof’ for it , is ALSO MORE FRAUD AND/OR ILLEGAL PRACTICES.___</p>
<p>Remember DISHONESTY AND DECEPTION IS THE TRADEMARK OF THIS ANTI-CONSTITUTIONAL, ANTI-AMERICAN CURRENT ADMINISTRATION.___</p>
<p>And how is your day so far ? </p>
<p>Daniel Cabrera,<br />
Merrillville,Indiana____</p>
<p>PS – The tv tabloids (NBC, CNN, MSNBC) , and tabloid publications such as , THE NEW YORK TIMES, THE HUFFINGTON POST, LA TIMES , etc,… along with what is left of the quasi-hypoitized brainless “utra-obamanized ” cool aid drinkers people, will not take this one lightly.</p>
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		<title>By: jbomb</title>
		<link>http://www.hillarynme.com/2009/07/30/obama%e2%80%99s-birth-certificate-eligibility-for-potus-%e2%80%93-what-lawmakers-need-to-know-before-returning-home-in-august-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-2035</link>
		<dc:creator>jbomb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 19:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank:

if you did really deep, you will see that Obama is also his own grandpa.  Think it through.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank:</p>
<p>if you did really deep, you will see that Obama is also his own grandpa.  Think it through.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.hillarynme.com/2009/07/30/obama%e2%80%99s-birth-certificate-eligibility-for-potus-%e2%80%93-what-lawmakers-need-to-know-before-returning-home-in-august-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-1933</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 03:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>***Ignore smrstrauss***

He’s an Obama-bot (O-bot). 

See here: http://www.reboottherepublic.com/blog/currentevents/i-just-kod-an-obama-bot-o-bot-on-the-birth-certificate-issue/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>***Ignore smrstrauss***</p>
<p>He’s an Obama-bot (O-bot). </p>
<p>See here: <a href="http://www.reboottherepublic.com/blog/currentevents/i-just-kod-an-obama-bot-o-bot-on-the-birth-certificate-issue/" rel="nofollow">http://www.reboottherepublic.com/blog/currentevents/i-just-kod-an-obama-bot-o-bot-on-the-birth-certificate-issue/</a></p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.hillarynme.com/2009/07/30/obama%e2%80%99s-birth-certificate-eligibility-for-potus-%e2%80%93-what-lawmakers-need-to-know-before-returning-home-in-august-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-1760</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jack:

I&#039;ve thought about that possibility, so have others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jack:</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve thought about that possibility, so have others.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.hillarynme.com/2009/07/30/obama%e2%80%99s-birth-certificate-eligibility-for-potus-%e2%80%93-what-lawmakers-need-to-know-before-returning-home-in-august-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-1752</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 01:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The time lines, places, actions, motives, when analyzed, support, and are consistent with, what is the answer to the Obama birth puzzle:

Obama’s grandmother is his mother and his mother is his sister.

Think about it. Review all the facts and claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The time lines, places, actions, motives, when analyzed, support, and are consistent with, what is the answer to the Obama birth puzzle:</p>
<p>Obama’s grandmother is his mother and his mother is his sister.</p>
<p>Think about it. Review all the facts and claims.</p>
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		<title>By: Viewer123</title>
		<link>http://www.hillarynme.com/2009/07/30/obama%e2%80%99s-birth-certificate-eligibility-for-potus-%e2%80%93-what-lawmakers-need-to-know-before-returning-home-in-august-part-two/comment-page-1/#comment-1745</link>
		<dc:creator>Viewer123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Madness on display.

This would be funny if it wasn&#039;t so crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Madness on display.</p>
<p>This would be funny if it wasn&#8217;t so crazy.</p>
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		<title>By: smrstrauss</title>
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		<dc:creator>smrstrauss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 17:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who says that a Natural Born Citizen requires two citizen parents and birth in the country? 

The constitution does not define Natural Born, but Natural Born was commonly used in the laws of the US Colonies before the Revolution, and it meant that someone became a citizen of the colony and a subject of Britain merely by being born in the colony. This was regardless of the number of parents who were subjects or citizens.

This is what Natural Born refers to. It refers to the laws of citizenship at the time. It does not refer to the theories of Vattel, a Swiss philosopher, who was considered an expert in international law, but not an expert on citizenship or government. Vattel, for example, after defining what a Native citizen was (the term Natural Born did not appear in a translation of Vattel until 100 years after the Constitution), then did not recommend that the leader of a nation should be a Natural Born Citizen or a Native-Born Citizen, or a citizen at all. He cited many kings and emperors who came from other countries than the ones that they ruled, and he never said that this was a bad thing.

There is no evidence that the writers of the Constitution followed Vattel. They did not follow him on his recommendation that every country should establish a state religion and force everyone to join it.

So where does Native Born come from? From the law, and not from Vattel.

What did the law say? This is what Blackstone said (and he was very popular reading among the writers of the Constitution, who were mainly lawyers): “The children of  aliens, born here in England, are, generally speaking, natural-born subjects and entitled to all the privileges of such. In which the constitution of France differs from ours; for there, by their jus albinatus, if a child be born of foreign parents, it is alien.” http://www.lonang.com/exlibris/blackstone/

(And the minor exceptions referred to in “generally speaking” refers to the children of foreign diplomats.) To be clear, Blackstone says that Natural Born subjects (and in the USA, Natural Born Citizens) are those that are born in the country regardless of the number of citizen parents. 

And this is why such prominent conservative Senators who are also lawyers as Orren Hatch and Lindsay Graham say that a Natural Born Citizen is simply one who was born in the USA:

Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), said:

“Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.” (December 11, 2008 letter to constituent)

Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), said:

“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says that a Natural Born Citizen requires two citizen parents and birth in the country? </p>
<p>The constitution does not define Natural Born, but Natural Born was commonly used in the laws of the US Colonies before the Revolution, and it meant that someone became a citizen of the colony and a subject of Britain merely by being born in the colony. This was regardless of the number of parents who were subjects or citizens.</p>
<p>This is what Natural Born refers to. It refers to the laws of citizenship at the time. It does not refer to the theories of Vattel, a Swiss philosopher, who was considered an expert in international law, but not an expert on citizenship or government. Vattel, for example, after defining what a Native citizen was (the term Natural Born did not appear in a translation of Vattel until 100 years after the Constitution), then did not recommend that the leader of a nation should be a Natural Born Citizen or a Native-Born Citizen, or a citizen at all. He cited many kings and emperors who came from other countries than the ones that they ruled, and he never said that this was a bad thing.</p>
<p>There is no evidence that the writers of the Constitution followed Vattel. They did not follow him on his recommendation that every country should establish a state religion and force everyone to join it.</p>
<p>So where does Native Born come from? From the law, and not from Vattel.</p>
<p>What did the law say? This is what Blackstone said (and he was very popular reading among the writers of the Constitution, who were mainly lawyers): “The children of  aliens, born here in England, are, generally speaking, natural-born subjects and entitled to all the privileges of such. In which the constitution of France differs from ours; for there, by their jus albinatus, if a child be born of foreign parents, it is alien.” <a href="http://www.lonang.com/exlibris/blackstone/" rel="nofollow">http://www.lonang.com/exlibris/blackstone/</a></p>
<p>(And the minor exceptions referred to in “generally speaking” refers to the children of foreign diplomats.) To be clear, Blackstone says that Natural Born subjects (and in the USA, Natural Born Citizens) are those that are born in the country regardless of the number of citizen parents. </p>
<p>And this is why such prominent conservative Senators who are also lawyers as Orren Hatch and Lindsay Graham say that a Natural Born Citizen is simply one who was born in the USA:</p>
<p>Senator Lindsey Graham (R-SC), said:</p>
<p>“Every child born in the United States is a natural-born United States citizen except for the children of diplomats.” (December 11, 2008 letter to constituent)</p>
<p>Senator Orrin G. Hatch (R-UT), said:</p>
<p>“What is a natural born citizen? Clearly, someone born within the United States or one of its territories is a natural born citizen.” (Senate Judiciary Committee hearing hearing on OCTOBER 5, 2004)</p>
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