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	<title>Comments on: Pssst! BARACK THE SUPREME COURT IS LISTENING!!! UPDATE &#8211; DONOFRIO v. WELLS</title>
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		<title>By: floyovercountry51</title>
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		<dc:creator>floyovercountry51</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is hijacking America and no one seems to notice....GOD SAVE AMERICA - because the Supreme Court will do nothing - too afraid of the Civil Wars that will be ensue immediately.  What a sham this guy.........good-looking, good talker - empty suit......very empty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is hijacking America and no one seems to notice&#8230;.GOD SAVE AMERICA &#8211; because the Supreme Court will do nothing &#8211; too afraid of the Civil Wars that will be ensue immediately.  What a sham this guy&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;good-looking, good talker &#8211; empty suit&#8230;&#8230;very empty.</p>
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		<title>By: ahrcanum</title>
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		<dc:creator>ahrcanum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never put much thought into O&#039;s thesis but you might be right on.  I am beginning to think that Bush made a deal for a one term Prez so as not to usurp the office and create chaos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never put much thought into O&#8217;s thesis but you might be right on.  I am beginning to think that Bush made a deal for a one term Prez so as not to usurp the office and create chaos.</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 20:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry Soetoro must&#039;ve enrolled as a foreign student in Occidental College, Columbia U, and Harvard School of Law. He must&#039;ve held scholarships as an International student. Barry doesn&#039;t want people to find out that he is now known as Barack...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Soetoro must&#8217;ve enrolled as a foreign student in Occidental College, Columbia U, and Harvard School of Law. He must&#8217;ve held scholarships as an International student. Barry doesn&#8217;t want people to find out that he is now known as Barack&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 04:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank,

You mention &quot;ALL of the EVIDENCE &quot; with emphasis on ALL and EVIDENCE, and yet you don&#039;t list any. What EVIDENCE? Have you yourself seen it? Has any been made public?
 Answer this, if there is nothing to this, then why are all &quot;normally&quot; open records sealed?
 Why was a COLB forged in the first place?
 Why was a forged COLB posted on Obama&#039;s own site?
 Why was said forged COLB presented as authentic?
 Why spend 100&#039;s of thousands of $$ to block people if there is nothing to it?
 Why not just spend $10 for a authentic BC and present it?
 Why would anybody trust someone who is trying to be so deceptive?
 Why should someone be trusted to run our country, if they&#039;re willing to commit a felony for forgery?
 Why should that same person be trusted, if they&#039;re willing to commit a felony of presenting a forged official document as official?
 Why would a person need to/ or want to commit those felonies in the first place?
 What about the integrity  (or lack thereof) of the person who isn&#039;t willing to look into these allegations?
 During the campaign McCain was challenged about his citizenship, and immediately produced public documentation to prove his eligibility. Why hasn&#039;t Obama done the very same?

Just remember, Hope and Change, Frank. Hope that Obama is what you think (or say) he is. And Change is all you&#039;ll have in your pocket in 2 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,</p>
<p>You mention &#8220;ALL of the EVIDENCE &#8221; with emphasis on ALL and EVIDENCE, and yet you don&#8217;t list any. What EVIDENCE? Have you yourself seen it? Has any been made public?<br />
 Answer this, if there is nothing to this, then why are all &#8220;normally&#8221; open records sealed?<br />
 Why was a COLB forged in the first place?<br />
 Why was a forged COLB posted on Obama&#8217;s own site?<br />
 Why was said forged COLB presented as authentic?<br />
 Why spend 100&#8217;s of thousands of $$ to block people if there is nothing to it?<br />
 Why not just spend $10 for a authentic BC and present it?<br />
 Why would anybody trust someone who is trying to be so deceptive?<br />
 Why should someone be trusted to run our country, if they&#8217;re willing to commit a felony for forgery?<br />
 Why should that same person be trusted, if they&#8217;re willing to commit a felony of presenting a forged official document as official?<br />
 Why would a person need to/ or want to commit those felonies in the first place?<br />
 What about the integrity  (or lack thereof) of the person who isn&#8217;t willing to look into these allegations?<br />
 During the campaign McCain was challenged about his citizenship, and immediately produced public documentation to prove his eligibility. Why hasn&#8217;t Obama done the very same?</p>
<p>Just remember, Hope and Change, Frank. Hope that Obama is what you think (or say) he is. And Change is all you&#8217;ll have in your pocket in 2 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nipfan,

What can I say? ALL of the EVIDENCE says that document is legitimate and meets the standards set for by the State Department for receiving a US Passport. Keeping railing against the machine and asking &quot;WHY?&quot; though. That way you&#039;re kind of like a Super Hero! Stories will be written about your heroic valor!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nipfan,</p>
<p>What can I say? ALL of the EVIDENCE says that document is legitimate and meets the standards set for by the State Department for receiving a US Passport. Keeping railing against the machine and asking &#8220;WHY?&#8221; though. That way you&#8217;re kind of like a Super Hero! Stories will be written about your heroic valor!</p>
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		<title>By: Nipfan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nipfan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank, you know better than that.  That Certificate of Live Birth (NOT birth certificate) which Obama  produced has been proved to be a fake.   Even if it were perfectly legitimate, however, it would prove anything, because at that time Hawaii issued COLBs for children born to Americans overseas.  You have to wonder, then, why Obama would go to the trouble of faking his COLB, let alone not releasing his his actual birth certificate.

By the way, I&#039;m sure that quite a few laws were broken by knowingly publishing and certifying a fake identity document.  The stakes must be very, very high to justify such a risk.

What is being asked of Obama is very simple, and shouldn&#039;t cause him a moment&#039;s problem.  Please provide your birth certificate, which you would have to do to renew a driver&#039;s licence in practically every state.  Instead, he has spent something like $800,000 fighting this simple request in court, instead of about $12 to get a new one issued if the original had been misplaced.

Why?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank, you know better than that.  That Certificate of Live Birth (NOT birth certificate) which Obama  produced has been proved to be a fake.   Even if it were perfectly legitimate, however, it would prove anything, because at that time Hawaii issued COLBs for children born to Americans overseas.  You have to wonder, then, why Obama would go to the trouble of faking his COLB, let alone not releasing his his actual birth certificate.</p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;m sure that quite a few laws were broken by knowingly publishing and certifying a fake identity document.  The stakes must be very, very high to justify such a risk.</p>
<p>What is being asked of Obama is very simple, and shouldn&#8217;t cause him a moment&#8217;s problem.  Please provide your birth certificate, which you would have to do to renew a driver&#8217;s licence in practically every state.  Instead, he has spent something like $800,000 fighting this simple request in court, instead of about $12 to get a new one issued if the original had been misplaced.</p>
<p>Why?????</p>
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		<title>By: Obambi.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obambi.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 05:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh you did already, will return the favor

thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh you did already, will return the favor</p>
<p>thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Obambi.com</title>
		<link>http://www.hillarynme.com/2008/11/21/pssst-barack-the-supreme-court-is-listening-update-donofrio-v-wells/comment-page-1/#comment-465</link>
		<dc:creator>Obambi.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 05:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice

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keep up the good work


add us to the blogroll.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice</p>
<p>looks like us. lol</p>
<p>keep up the good work</p>
<p>add us to the blogroll.</p>
<p>obambi.com</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 04:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um, Obama has released his birth certificate proving he was born in Hawaii. Why do you keep pretending this isn&#039;t so? It&#039;s valid, certified and has been positively confirmed by the State of Hawaii. There is no law that compels any candidate for POTUS to release the &quot;vault certificate.&quot; Your repeated calls don&#039;t change that.

The constitution says nothing about duel citizenship at birth with regard to being Natural Born. Sorry but it doesn&#039;t.

The ultimate question is how did Obama receive his citizenship, by birth or by statute? Donofrio argues basically that his duel citizenship status at birth means his citizenship was automatically conferred by statute. The constitution does not say this. It&#039;s a question that&#039;s never been addressed before, so your drawing of conclusions and calling things &quot;proof&quot; is misguided at best. If it&#039;s an argument that has merit, the supreme court will hear it. Otherwise it&#039;s dumped. That&#039;s it. This is not a constitutional crisis by any stretch.

If you think through Donofrio&#039;s comparison of Obama&#039;s citizenship to the citizenship of the founders of the constitution, the comparison doesn&#039;t hold. The framers were bringing a new country and it&#039;s laws into existence, so of course they weren&#039;t natural born citizens. Nobody was until they were &quot;born in the US,&quot; after it was an actual country, which Obama was. His argument seems weak to me and I think the Supreme Court will agree.

You guys who are freaking out about this need to calm down. You are screaming for a document that&#039;s already been released and verified as valid. At the same time you are touting a lawsuit that doesn&#039;t even call into question the validity of his birth certificate. And you combine the two into a really illogical premise. Even if Obama were to release the vault certificate signed by god himself along with the actual video of his birth in Hawaii, it would have no bearing on Donofrio&#039;s case. So stop making the connection. It makes no sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um, Obama has released his birth certificate proving he was born in Hawaii. Why do you keep pretending this isn&#8217;t so? It&#8217;s valid, certified and has been positively confirmed by the State of Hawaii. There is no law that compels any candidate for POTUS to release the &#8220;vault certificate.&#8221; Your repeated calls don&#8217;t change that.</p>
<p>The constitution says nothing about duel citizenship at birth with regard to being Natural Born. Sorry but it doesn&#8217;t.</p>
<p>The ultimate question is how did Obama receive his citizenship, by birth or by statute? Donofrio argues basically that his duel citizenship status at birth means his citizenship was automatically conferred by statute. The constitution does not say this. It&#8217;s a question that&#8217;s never been addressed before, so your drawing of conclusions and calling things &#8220;proof&#8221; is misguided at best. If it&#8217;s an argument that has merit, the supreme court will hear it. Otherwise it&#8217;s dumped. That&#8217;s it. This is not a constitutional crisis by any stretch.</p>
<p>If you think through Donofrio&#8217;s comparison of Obama&#8217;s citizenship to the citizenship of the founders of the constitution, the comparison doesn&#8217;t hold. The framers were bringing a new country and it&#8217;s laws into existence, so of course they weren&#8217;t natural born citizens. Nobody was until they were &#8220;born in the US,&#8221; after it was an actual country, which Obama was. His argument seems weak to me and I think the Supreme Court will agree.</p>
<p>You guys who are freaking out about this need to calm down. You are screaming for a document that&#8217;s already been released and verified as valid. At the same time you are touting a lawsuit that doesn&#8217;t even call into question the validity of his birth certificate. And you combine the two into a really illogical premise. Even if Obama were to release the vault certificate signed by god himself along with the actual video of his birth in Hawaii, it would have no bearing on Donofrio&#8217;s case. So stop making the connection. It makes no sense.</p>
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		<title>By: David S</title>
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		<dc:creator>David S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 01:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why was this blog  hacked?
see CACHED here &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; http://tinyurl.com/5veusf


Also Leo&#039;s has put up a new blog, as his first was hacked
http://thenaturalborncitizen.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why was this blog  hacked?<br />
see CACHED here &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; <a href="http://tinyurl.com/5veusf" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/5veusf</a></p>
<p>Also Leo&#8217;s has put up a new blog, as his first was hacked<br />
<a href="http://thenaturalborncitizen.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://thenaturalborncitizen.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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